tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post115282564807046872..comments2023-10-23T12:23:54.134-05:00Comments on Larry James' Urban Daily: Minimum Wage More than Frozen in Place--Part TwoLarry Jameshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06124477733714017000noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-1153499855704586152006-07-21T11:37:00.000-05:002006-07-21T11:37:00.000-05:00How about.... Central FLORIDA Ministries? :)How about.... Central FLORIDA Ministries? :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-1153250173735506682006-07-18T14:16:00.000-05:002006-07-18T14:16:00.000-05:00Larry,Short on time today, but skimming through to...Larry,<BR/>Short on time today, but skimming through today and yesterday's post, I've got to say I completely agree!<BR/><BR/>Here in N. CO, <A HREF="http://www.nlihc.org/oor2005/data.php?getstate=on&getmsa=on&msa%5B%5D=68&state%5B%5D=CO" REL="nofollow">a minimum-wage earner would have to work 124 hours/week with no time off in a year to afford a 2 BR apartment.</A> How many hours are actually in a 7 day week? 168. That means a remaining 6 1/4 hrs/day to sleep, relax, spend time with kids, run errands, eat, cook ,etc. are available. I sleep more than that every day! It's impossible!!! And, people say, "Well they don't have to work min. wage, they could go to school and get a better job..." Perhaps, but it seems to me that justifies the idea that only SOME of America's hard workers deserve to have a safe and decent place to live - and that's wrong to me. Very wrong.<BR/><BR/>For that data in your state, one can visit <A>http://www.nlihc.org/oor2005/</A>.Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04653012877754804144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-1153242979098393932006-07-18T12:16:00.000-05:002006-07-18T12:16:00.000-05:00IE -- Thanks for the interesting article from Land...IE -- Thanks for the interesting article from Landsburg.<BR/><BR/>I saw 2 of your reasons on your blog against the minimum wage. In regards to number one, I think the minimum wage would still be useful to those above the poverty line who still have low-incomes. To number two -- the effect on employers would trickle out through the economy -- through employers cutting other costs or raising prices (that's the part where my inflation fears come in).<BR/><BR/>Are you in favor of not having a minimum wage at all or simply not raising it? I'd like to know what other reasons you have against the minimum wage.<BR/><BR/>I like the idea of having both minimum wage and EITC - with both being expanded. Minimum wage gives people more up front for living expenses, whereas the EITC almost acts as a short term investment plan by giving people money each year in a lump sum -- Unfortunately many low-income people are confused by the EITC (it confuses me) or don't even know about it. At least the minimum wage forces help across the board.Daniel Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222247788683568388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-1153240610474058902006-07-18T11:36:00.000-05:002006-07-18T11:36:00.000-05:00Quite surprisingly, libertarian economist Steve La...Quite surprisingly, libertarian economist Steve Landsburg argues quite convincingly that <A HREF="http://blog.netesq.com/2006/06/problem-with-minimum-wage-laws.html" REL="nofollow">the minimum wage is not the big job killer that most other economists believe it to be</A>. Nonetheless, if your objective is to help the working poor, an expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit would be much more effective and equitable than raising the minimum wage.Internet Esquirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04906270845603403770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-1153240396493588112006-07-18T11:33:00.000-05:002006-07-18T11:33:00.000-05:00Yes, they are my parents.Thanks for sending the re...Yes, they are my parents.<BR/>Thanks for sending the report (you've been e-mailed).<BR/><BR/>That is something I was not always aware of growing up. Going to a private school and being a part of a soomewhat politically conservative church (even though they were very missional and active in inner-city work), I always had an aversion to government involvement. That's something I've had to grow out of in trying to listen to both sides and find the real truth.Daniel Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222247788683568388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-1153239338230553922006-07-18T11:15:00.000-05:002006-07-18T11:15:00.000-05:00Daniel, I'd be glad to send you a hard copy. Emai...Daniel, I'd be glad to send you a hard copy. Email me your mailing address at ljames@centraldallasministries.org.I don't have the report in electronic form. <BR/><BR/>I expect there may be other studies from other states. <BR/><BR/>We need to face the fact that those who block the poor often sound convincing and full of truth, but in fact they are not telling us the truth. <BR/><BR/>BTW--are you related to Ed and Rhonda Gray?Larry Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06124477733714017000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-1153234130079568202006-07-18T09:48:00.000-05:002006-07-18T09:48:00.000-05:00Wow, let's raise it now... :)Very interesting info...Wow, let's raise it now... :)<BR/><BR/>Very interesting information -- most of which I've never really heard before (I'm sure others are in the same boat.) Couple of questions:<BR/>1. Are there any other hard data from other states either supporting or in conflict with these findings?<BR/>2. Where can I find more info on this report from Florida, or even a copy of the full report?<BR/><BR/>I'm a social work major at ACU, and in my policy class this spring, I wrote an analysis paper of the EITC -- so I was really in favor of expanding the EITC in light of most of the "arguments" against minimum wage. Ideally, I'd still be in favor of the minimum wage too (especially if the negatives are almost non-existent), but I'd still like to find more research on the issue.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your help, Larry!Daniel Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222247788683568388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-1153230520787089012006-07-18T08:48:00.000-05:002006-07-18T08:48:00.000-05:00Perhaps we should re-read Yoder and consider his p...Perhaps we should re-read Yoder and consider his premise that the kingdom ushers in the(eternal) year of the Jubilee - or do we have an evil eye (lack of compassion for the less fortunate)?<BR/>Grateful for hard data on this issue.Missionary's Missionaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12659205726594801495noreply@blogger.com