tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post2982485786910568310..comments2023-10-23T12:23:54.134-05:00Comments on Larry James' Urban Daily: What's in a name? Plenty, actually!Larry Jameshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06124477733714017000noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-76317578424517712622008-11-19T01:52:00.000-06:002008-11-19T01:52:00.000-06:00Just a random thought: I don't mean to go off top...Just a random thought: I don't mean to go off topic (this is a great post!), but when did "Anglo" become an acceptable term for people of European heritage? I know plenty of German, Italian, and Irish Americans who might not be too happy about being lumped in with the English!<BR/>So sorry, but it had to be said!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-39832942899277491152008-11-18T21:46:00.000-06:002008-11-18T21:46:00.000-06:00All of you "get rid of the confederate name" folks...All of you "get rid of the confederate name" folks should think about the atrocities of most of our US leaders over the past 200 years? Should we take their names down as well? Most of them owned slaves. Many of them participated in plenty of abuses against native americans. Lee, for example, did not fight to keep slavery, in fact, while not being an abolitionist, he did not believe the practice to be moral or right. Lee fought because he couldn't fight against his home state.<BR/><BR/>But, maybe its a better idea just to wipe the past clean of anyone who might have made different moral positions in a different time. I mean, surely we can judge historical people through modern morality right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-37141533600698772322008-11-18T18:40:00.000-06:002008-11-18T18:40:00.000-06:00anonymous,No you are not the only one bothered by ...anonymous,<BR/><BR/>No you are not the only one bothered by that. I think every school, statue and monument erected to every confederate civil war general needs to be replaced! And Cesar Chavez would be an excellent replacement. <BR/><BR/>I don't think its going to happen though!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-47914967682031402722008-11-18T16:20:00.001-06:002008-11-18T16:20:00.001-06:00This is probably the wrong place to bring this up,...This is probably the wrong place to bring this up, but am I the only person who is bothered by the confederate generals that are used to name buildings? Why don't we change the name of Robert E Lee park to Cesar Chavez? That would be a 2-for-1 fix in my opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-47678650509262678242008-11-18T16:20:00.000-06:002008-11-18T16:20:00.000-06:00This is probably the wrong place to bring this up,...This is probably the wrong place to bring this up, but am I the only person who is bothered by the confederate generals that are used to name buildings? Why don't we change the name of Robert E Lee park to Cesar Chavez? That would be a 2-for-1 fix in my opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-70117316271029796512008-11-18T11:46:00.000-06:002008-11-18T11:46:00.000-06:00I agree with you!I agree with you!Cheryl Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14772914113371343068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-60327745744614666562008-11-17T18:31:00.000-06:002008-11-17T18:31:00.000-06:00Sadly the Cesar Chavez name delay is showing a pai...Sadly the Cesar Chavez name delay is showing a painful side of Dallas, and our history, as it is slowly exposed in the process of looking for the reasons for such behavior.<BR/>Limiting the Cesar Chavez name to Farmers Market is another 'accommodation' in a long list of such that appears designed to keep minority names out of sight. <BR/><BR/>Did you know that in 1995 there was a "Cesar Chavez Plaza" dedicated in the center of Farmers Market on a section of street that used to be a section of Pearl St? Over 99.9% of Dallas doesn't know about it either. There is a plaque on the side of Building #2 dedicating the Plaza as Cesar Chavez Plaza, but on the Farmer's Market own web site the words "Cesar Chavez" did not exist as of yesterday when I created a report on this fact, and other related facts. See www.studentmotivation.org/CesarChavezAve. That web site recommends that all of Pearl from the Farmers Market north to where it ends, along with Moody St, all be renamed in honor of Cesar Chavez. That effort would unite Little Mexico and the historic center thereof, St. Ann's School, with the Guadalupe Cathedral and Farmers Market, all along the same street going through the center of downtown Dallas, and within two blocks of the Latino Cultural Center. The Dallas City Archivist is unable to find the source for either the Pearl or the Moody name. Study the web site to see if you can find other potential problems with this renaming idea. This may be the third solid idea for the Cesar Chavez name. If Dallas again rejects it, we have a painful pattern that may justify expanding the lesson plan in tolerance that was created online using this naming process in Dallas. That lesson plan is linked from the web site mentioned above.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-38152732925505659412008-11-17T10:10:00.000-06:002008-11-17T10:10:00.000-06:00I supported keeping the name Industrial Blvd. It ...I supported keeping the name Industrial Blvd. It doesn't honor a rich white man and it does provide a feel for the past in Dallas. <BR/>I feel that Cesar Chavez in the Farmers Market area would be more in keeping with his fight for all migrant workers (contrary to popular belief, not all the workers he fought for were Hispanic, my poor white family had a stint as migrant workers and were mistreated as well).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-20096796476452027612008-11-17T09:25:00.000-06:002008-11-17T09:25:00.000-06:00To anon 9:03 -Respectfully and kindly, I just want...To anon 9:03 -<BR/><BR/>Respectfully and kindly, I just want to say that I don't think Janet is being a "little too quick to see racism lurking in every crack". I agree with her 100%. <BR/><BR/>For one thing there are plenty of black and hispanic people that don't live in that area.<BR/><BR/>I think they should be placed where EVERYONE can be inspired by them.<BR/><BR/>I may not agree with Janet and Mr. James on their political issues, but they hit the target on issues with poverty and social injustice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-12032280119105863922008-11-17T09:03:00.000-06:002008-11-17T09:03:00.000-06:00It's not at all that whites (or others) "can't" be...It's not at all that whites (or others) "can't" be inspired by Chavez or other civil rights leaders. But hasn't everyone recognized that Obama's election has a special significance for African Americans? I think streets named after any leader being placed where those most likely to be inspired by them makes sense for the same reason. (I think you're being a little too quick to see racism lurking in every crack, Janet.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-76027307030723504362008-11-17T08:55:00.000-06:002008-11-17T08:55:00.000-06:00Anonymous 8:46~Why does Cesar Chavez have to be pl...Anonymous 8:46~<BR/>Why does Cesar Chavez have to be placed in a Hispanic area?? Why is he only significant to Hispanics? Why is MLK only significant to African-Americans?? <BR/><BR/>"perhaps it should be located where more Hispanics would see it, and be inspired by it, day in, day out." <BR/><BR/>That implies that the rest of us [white] people can't possibly be inspired by a Hispanic or African-American leader. <BR/><BR/>I would like to think that day in our society is gone. <BR/><BR/>Cesar Chavez needs to be named in a prominent area that ALL of Dallas can and will see. My letter to the city council was NOT Ross avenue because it is predominantly Hispanic. I advocated for the bigger, more significant change of Industrial. But not only would they not rename Industrial...they wouldn't even rename Ross. I'm appalled by the way this has been handled in Dallas.Janet Morrison-Lanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13155012134161023319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-23244841561543797992008-11-17T08:54:00.000-06:002008-11-17T08:54:00.000-06:00MLK runs right through the heart of "Black Dallas,...<I><B>MLK runs right through the heart of "Black Dallas," which seems appropriate.</B></I><BR/><BR/>Interesting comment. I am white, but I think that MLK has made a significant positive impact on my life too.<BR/><BR/>I think civil rights leaders have affected everyone, not just a certain race?<BR/><BR/>But actually, Lubbock, TX does the same thing.<BR/><BR/>I do see your point of not changing the names though.... a city council member in Lubbock (who happens to be African American) thought the same thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-45342063378572182692008-11-17T08:51:00.000-06:002008-11-17T08:51:00.000-06:00Maybe they someone like to you be on city council,...Maybe they someone like to you be on city council, seriously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-70864604704142376412008-11-17T08:46:00.000-06:002008-11-17T08:46:00.000-06:00While sympathetic to the idea of naming something ...While sympathetic to the idea of naming something in honor of Chavez, I must confess a dislike for changing the names of well known, prominent streets. I also like street names with geographic significance (i.e. Riverside). Maybe it's just that I'm already sometimes directionally challenged. <BR/><BR/>I like the Farmer's Market idea. MLK runs right through the heart of "Black Dallas," which seems appropriate. Maybe Chavez Blvd could be a prominent West Dallas street. Since it is most meaningful to Hispanics, perhaps it should be located where more Hispanics would see it, and be inspired by it, day in, day out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9827454.post-42966851786878385422008-11-17T08:40:00.000-06:002008-11-17T08:40:00.000-06:00Very enlightening. I used to work with migrant chi...Very enlightening. I used to work with migrant children and we celebrated Cesar Chavez day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com