Saturday, December 11, 2010

John Lewis on the DREAM Act

Civil rights icon and U. S. Congressman from Georgia, John Lewis expressed his strong convictions about the DREAM Act this week:


Ken said...

John Lewis is dreaming. He draws an image of the children of illegal immigrants as if they have physically bled and scrapped for existence. In truth, while a few have joined the military and perhaps suffered as casualties of war, the vast majority have grown up as lower middle class suburbanites.

In Central Valley California, there are so many of these kids, public schools, daycares, clinics and public resource agencies are overwhelmed. The policy of the public school system is not to address immigration status. Rather, schools and social workers capitalize on students' reported needs to write grants.

Universities want the dream act to pass, b/c the federal government supplements university budgets based upon enrollment. And these illegal immigrant children are accomplices in the scam - as a university prof I've heard several students laugh and mock Americans for paying their way in life. I heard this, personally, multiple times.

One such student is Nayali Arreola. Here is a quote in the Fresno Bee about the circumstances of her family's illegal immigration to the US: "Esidronio Arreola said he followed his attorney's advice and lied to immigration officials about being politically persecuted in Mexico. The lawyer was later disbarred for misconduct. An immigration judge ordered the four to leave the country."

He is either lying now AND then, or he simply lied then. In a speech to the student body, Ms. Arreola reported her story as an illegal immigrant. She laughed about the procedural delays, misinformation, and about how her school-mates shared insights about strategy to remain "in the system" and not get deported. Many of the parents could not read English and these kids used their bilingual skills to help their parents work the system. Many - not all - are complicit in the illegal immigration scam.

John Lewis is knows better. But he is working for a payday. The Arreola family remains in the U.S.

Chris said...

The problem with the Dream Act is that it is poorly written with no mechanism to identify and reject fraudulent applications. One could be able to qualify even if they came to the U.S. on their own past the age of 16. Likely, no college would be required or one could get a mail-order degree in anti-American studies. As soon as it is passed (heaven forbid) it would encourage mass illegal immigration as there is no cut off date. It is just a back door way to amnesty, which means more votes for the Democrat Party. Once a person applies for legal status they cannot be deported. It would take years to investigate all the applicants. This must be stopped!

Larry James said...

Why do opponents of really good social policy rush, and attempt to push us all, to the edges, to the extremes by using fear and "one off" stories that have nothing to do with the heart of the issue or the solutions being offered. But, it happens every time. I can't imagine what it must be like to live in such negativity and fear all of the time. I feel sorry for these people, I really do.

The DREAM Act has been vetted for a long time; it's been around for years; it is bipartisan; it makes sense; it allows us to capture our investment in the lives of young people who are all around us. I have scores of friends here in Dallas who want to contribute to the good of the nation. They want to go on to uniiversity with the prospect of working and contributing. They want to be teachers, doctors, engineers, soldiers and sailors. They are great people! This is America! What is there to fear?

Chris said...

The American people have said over and over again that they do not want this legislation. What is it about that you don't understand? If the people had wanted it, it would have been passed long ago. Instead, Harry Reid is trying to pass it with the lame duck congress because he knows it's the only hope. It should be debated fully, not only in Congress but by the American people. Most of the people do not know even what it is, much less the "unintended consequences" of its passage. I was talking to, what anyone would consider, a fairly educated person this morning and she had never heard of this bill. I hope this next week that it will be debated more fully. It seems the tax bill has taken priority recently.

Ken said...

As reported in the NYT in April and other sources, 47% of workers in the US do not pay federal income taxes, because of the way the current tax system allocates tax responsibility. IF (BIG IF) one of these children of illegals becomes a citizen, simple probability dictates that 47% of them will not pay federal income taxes.

Further, WHEN they bring in additional persons to this country, simple probability tells us they, too, will avoid paying federal income taxes at a probability of 47%.

We know that nearly all those who come in from Mexico do not have the same level of skill and education as do the children of illegal immigrants who grew up in the states under illegal status.

So, if normal conditions apply, the majority of illegal immigrant children and those they sponsor will provide no federal income tax revenue to the nation's budget.

This conclusion is not based upon fear or anger. Most kids at some point tell you they have high aspirations. (Sure, they want to become doctors.) But we must rely upon the true behavior to make decisions.

Larry, I gave you a specific example related to general trends. You made an unsubstantiated claim that the dream act is a good, bipartisan social policy that has been around for a long time. Why is this act struggling? What makes it "good?" Without evidence to support your contentions, all we have here is another liberal whine.

I am looking for facts that indicate illegal immigrants will make more of a contribution than a cost to the US economy.